This new model is the latest in the growing line of rifles and pistols based on the RRAGE platform. Im not ordering anything Springfield. Personally hate to hear whenever CEOs or head honchos make public decisions costing their employees jobs/money. Like a shrewd negotiator, Harmonhappily added a manufacturer and big box retailer carve-out to the bill so he couldcobble together the last few votes he needed to get it through the Senate. There are more corrupt justices out their than honest ones. Local politicians always give tax incentives to move. So, S and W are also dead to me. Especially ones outside Chiraq. Thanks Springfield. We want our dealers and our valued customers to know we wont ever do anything like this again., We fully support the Second Amendment and stand by it. Cant this fool see how much this is going to hes going to hurt his own pocketbook for this tiny edge? Have been eyeballing the SA Saint the last couple weeks. I cant imagine the CEOs of those two companies werent in the loop on these negotiations. The future for firearms manufacturers is less than certain due to falling demand and moving a 50year old corporation like SA out of state is a huge expenditure. It weighs 10.2 pounds empty and is 43.5 inches long. Hes told several industry types that he had no contact with IFMA lobbyist Jay Keller and knew nothing of this carve-out. Yes, a company can move and thrive, as it only a matter of time before the cutout is removed and they are closed down. Yes, very disappointed. Did Springfield get shouted down at their own party? If you apply more than 9 make-ups in a year, you are in cosmetology businesses. So, youre not buying a bunch of Springfields new pistols? I asked one. Thats not fighting to protect gun owners. Even cosmetologists and lawyers. Rock River booth at the NRA convention, owner Chuck Larson has professed innocence in the matter. Most places, its still over $1500. So many good options, why buy from jackasses. We are not obligated to honor a price that is in print or an error. In fact, I own a Springfield M1A Scout Squad that they gave me free of charge after I encountered a series of malfunctions with an old SAR8. Whats the hangup for SA? They seemed like a freedom loving company that supported the right for people to do what they had rights to do. Rock River Arms earned their reputation by manufacturing some of the most accurate and reliable semi-auto rifles for the law enforcement and civilian markets. Half of those are national groups out of Washington, D.C., that have set up shop inSpringfield hotels. I bought a RRA rifle back in 2012. Springfield and Rock River Illinois Sell-Out: Picking up the I only want American Made firearms like Henry & Ruger. Antifa is showing what they are willing to do, watch their fellow komrad take a LEO beanbag round to the wang and keep marching. Whats more, Larson seems genuinely appalled by what happened. And gun control wins, like this keep the gravy train flowing so they can continue to draw a paycheck and keep on going. Smith and Ruger more than compensated for erroneous thinking. Its about the same price as an M1A. If one of them didnt actually know about this then thats really not fair. There are millions of people in the US who no longer think that its enough to fight and die for these rights. Some would disagree. Find gray, black, tan, alpine and other finishes on these .223 Rem / 5.56mm, .450 Bushmaster or 6.8 SPC chambered rifles. Send a signal to IL Senators and the Governor that supporting the bill is politically a trainwreck. Did you expect anything less than shady from the Illinois legislature? RRA looks pretty darn guilty or pretty darn incompetent. Instead, we were undercut by aself-serving supposed ally. Get a Dan Wesson instead. I have been in similar situations where it is damned if I do damned if I dont. Because of rumors of canceled orders. Rock River Arms (RRA) has introduced a new AR-style rifle to its lineup, designed specifically with the modern hunter in mind, with the new All Terrain Hunter (ATH). Low character move. You are both dead to me now. Apples and suspension bridges here. And IFMA successfully lobbied and got a manufactures exemption this bill . It doesnt have to be both for the same reason. F them. Chill out and stop trying to ruin a great company. Make it a campaign issue NOW. Hence why, even with Democrats holding a super-majority in both our House and Senate, and a rabidly anti-gun Governor, we held the line even post-Newtown. The LWRC, DD and BCM are ALL over $1300. It happens ALL THE TIME, and with companies much larger than RRA. In order to try to get a lock on about 1.6 million FOID holders in Illinois, Springfield has angered the other 80 million gun owners in the rest of the nation. With the Hillarys loss there is no longer a looming gun ban on the horizon and the firearm industry and market is facing a correction. The Reese clan has done dirty deals before, got busted too, http://www.upi.com/Archives/1989/03/16/Salvador-based-Army-colonel-indicted-on-bribery-charges/5406606027600/, RRA sells to NY LE supporting the SAFE act, which is trying to put a vet away for 21 years for having 17rd mags (no gun, just mags), http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/04/veteran_faces_21_years_in_prison_for_possession_of_pistol_magazines.html. Well do our part in other states to support you. Not saying you have to like what happened, but its soviet Illinois, it was going to happen with or without their opposition. Come to find out the guy had paid triple for the supply to be trucked in so people could have them. Wasnt there big stink couple years ago about so called kitchen table FFLs not realy conducting business for living and just getting wholesale pricing on guns for themselves and their family members? Olympic Arms continued this legacy with its OA-93, OA-96 and OA-98 models. The innovation and embracing of modern ideas weve seen the last 10yrs (MSRs, suppressors, polymer everything, etc) never would have happened under Bill. Its like trying to work with Bloomberg himself. Tony- IFMA is SAs and RRAs lobbying firm(as opposed to an existing firm that SA hired. Rock River Arms has Rock River Arms guarantees this pistol will shoot 2.5-inch groups at 50 yards with 185-grain Federal Gold Medal Match semi-wadcutter ammo. I bought 6 smith & wessons before I ever knew about the incident. Shame! The silent majority will get the shaft, not gonna be any civil war, get over yourself. So, if youre looking for a cheap AR-15, Rock Other places have them for $200.00. And Im not giving them up, to anybody, under any circumstances. What would I do if I was RRA and SAI? Having this blow up the day before a brand-new product launch at the NRA convention is basically the exact opposite of fortuitous timings for Springfield. see: gasoline supply during any natural disaster where the govt threatens to prosecute profiteers. Henry and Ruger get my votes for Americas Gunmakers. If only there was a place to run-and-gun in or near NWI. I also find their use of Springfield Armory in their advertising repulsive, implying over 240 years of history in the current company, starting in 1777. Wrong. Rock Rivers LAR-15 NSP CAR is a lightweight, reliable, well-made and accurate AR carbine that is ready for duty right out of Whats more, Larsonseems genuinely appalled by what happened. And the law mainly affecting small businesses, thats a feature, I think, not a bug. They see deep-blue Illinois as a great place toenact more of their gun control schemes. Those bastards. When no one else had any left. They pulled the same crap for the Clinton ban, Amen almost bought a springfield I agree with you to hell with them sig glock ruger for me here on out. Its GENESEO and its still about 3 hours from Chicago. If it is a 16" it is 5.56, which the Entry Tactical is. Asit should. Great gun. Oh, hell no, he told me. Were pulling out of IFMA and regret that this happened. because Im sure you dont live in illinios. Post interesting results everywhere. In short, this means rifle-makers need to adapt, and one company taking that step is Rock River Arms (RRA) with its LAR-15 Operator III in 5.56mm NATO. And by the way, sarcastically calling people badasses loses its effect when you get so butthurt by an article that you start calling the author a pu$$y. PERIOD. Not a smart move in a buyers market, or any really. WARNING: The products offered for sale on this website can expose you to chemicals which are known to the State The RRA LAR-15 is a quality gun, in just about any configuration you can come up with. Hes told several industry types that he had no contact with IFMA lobbyist Jay Keller and knew nothing of this carve-out. +1, they are a bunch of liars praying on the ignorant. Be everywhere until the bill is toast. Initially I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, but after I thought about Reeses statement, and now that Ive seen Larsons statement, I would have liked to see hecklers run Springfields employees right out of Atlanta. Maybe worst of all, passage gives anti-gunners a win they desperately needed. Aluminum Mags Just Starting At $14.00 At Rock River Arms. Now I wish I had not. Kahr moved out of NY. Also check out the BM 59 kits and complete rifles out there. WebRock River Arms LAR-15 X-1 5.56mm Black Semi-Auto Rifle with RRA Beast Muzzle Brake Brand: Rock River Arms; Item Number: XAR1751B; Rock River Arms LAR-15 X-1 5.56mm Flat Dark Earth (FDE) Semi-Auto Rifle with RRA Beast Muzzle Br Brand: Rock River Arms; Item Number: XAR1751T; IMO, this last election postponed the literal civil war Ive been advocating for for over 10 years. Make the bill political kryptonite. Layoffs to follow. James Jeffrey, the author's friend, In the end, the timing proved fortuitous to all involved. Thats a double-whammy of reduced demand in the current market. Cancelled orders? You and your mindset are one of the problems with this country. Its like saying Saturn is really, really big, and huge, too! My 1911 search continues and Ill never purchase a Springfield. I see how you fired a shot across IFMAs bow last week. and thats where the idea of 10 round limit for magazines originated,right from the mouth of Bill Ruger. I think a hit to Springfield sales should get them leaning on the IFMA (who should be facing a hit to subscribers) enough for the IFMA to not fold in the future. I sent an email and their response was the parts were out of stock. How does a company respond to pernicious laws and an atmosphere which is detrimental to the People of the Gun? If you are willing to do 9mm, check out an Honor Guard. Ruger didnt compromise, they wrote the AWA and betrayed every American gun owner in a most serious way. They hate freedom and absolutely love all powerful Government. All businesses are licensed at the state level. Well I will see if I can make a good trade for STI, Para, or a cz had a cz 85 combat one time and traded it, was a real good gun in a 9 mm.Things like this is realy bad just cant trust anyone anymore. when supply cant meet demand, then the price increases.. this draws more suppliers into the market to meet demand and you see the price decrease. A big reason that these rifles shoot so well is the barrel. The barrels Rock River use come from the Connecticut-based company, Wilson Arms (wilsonarms.com). Wilson makes the barrel, contours it and starts the chambering process. Performance Tuned. The .308-caliber LAR-8 is plenty of gun for big-game hunting. These fat dumb and happy political hacks arent used to burning time and money on issues this far out. Im not buying a damn thing from Springfield and there is NO EXPIRATION DATE ON THAT. I was just about to order another springfield xdm .45. After Ruger (finally) gets all of its new products launched they will have just about all the bases covered. I totally agree Travis. CTD does our best to price our products at market value. This is going to be really bad for RRA and Springfield. Sorry for the spelling error. Its pretty much just SA and RRA (and maybe a few tiny shops, but those are pretty much the only two big gun makers in Illinois). Everyone here is minding our business, because its our business where our money goes. Please focus on customer relations and positioning strategies. Hopefully this boycott will pass over with minimal job loss to the common machinist. Magpul moved. I think that if gun owners boycotted every company into oblivion that had to compromise at some point there wouldnt be any gun manufacturers around. The NRA would likely throw you and your fliers in the dumpster. Here I was just falling in love with my SA 1911 Loaded. And dont give me this they have changed nonsense. This just proves that point. No more. Rock River Arms is an American manufacturer of firearms that was founded in 1996. cant hornor us people gun rights I say F THEM ALL. If Rauner is serious about re-election he will veto this flaming sack of shite. One of the few cases of sincere contrition. Sadly I have two. Just keep in mind, if you have a dozen guns in your safe, I GUARANTEE you that at least one comes from a company whos compromised at some point. In the world of .308 Win. Taurus? Sellouts. Most importantly, support our brothers in arms in Illinois. Thankfully, many of the downstate Dems are staunchly pro-gun. The dimensions and leade of the .223 Remington minimum C.I.P. But I struggle with the NEVER AGAIN WILL I EVER SUPPORT THIS COMPANY. You probably also found out that at least bizapedia reports that the IFMA was dissolved. Rock River Arms offers its version with a twist near and dear to my heart: the new LAR-15 pistol is available in both right- and left-hand configurations. No more. If that hurts a company whos sold you out, good. These two companies MUST be boycotted into bankruptcy. Hinterland #: 50977; MFG #: MT1800X; In stock. After the 2004 sunset of the Assault Weapons Ban, AR pistols developed rapidly and have become popular. CZ-75/85 are great guns. Like other gun-manufacturers Springfield can move its operations to a gun-friendly state. It will make my future purchases easier because two manufacturers are automatically removed from my search and consideration. WebRock River Arms Two Stage Match Trigger Kit4.5-5 lbThe RRA match AR trigger kit is designed for AR-15 and AR-10 Mil-Spec lower receivers with .154 trigger and hammer pins. No Springfield guns for me. For a while there, post SAFE-ACT passage, it looked like 10-round (I know, right) mags were going to be outlawed. With all the gun control in northern Illinois how the hell can they screw all of us like this! And rra. I live in Illinois. Good for them, too. For folks like me, it is no longer enough to be willing to fight and die for these rights, but to be willing to kill for them as well. I know I wont be buying anything else from springfield armory. Great comment, but I dont think it is enough. WebRock River Arms RAGE AR-15 Rifle 5.56 Nato / .223 Rem, 16" BBL, 6 Position Stock, M-LOK Free Float Rail, 30 Round, LAR-15M - Model DS1850 Carbine. Huh? As the market changes so does our pricing. Some mightsay IFMAs change of heart might not have made a definitive difference. The plant where that rifle is made revitalized the area n which it is made. The news of Springfield Armory and Rock River Arms selling Illinois gun dealers and gun owners down the river continues to spread among The People of The Gun. Your Price: $744.13. They have a good ongoing business, why jeopardize it? I hear you on that Ruger. They will now go to the top so I can wear them out and use the warranty. The licensing fee? This year, State Senator Don Harmon needed IFMA to end their opposition to his bill. Same here. Your Price: $744.13. Do they somehow know the licensing scheme is going to be corrupt or extremely expensive? is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders. Tell us more about your experience in running a business. IFMAs Keller testified in March at the Illinois Senate Judiciary committee of his willingness to consider dropping the lobbying groupsopposition to the bill if his clients were exempted. ! mantra. You can learn to make good parts on a CNC a lot faster than on a Bridgeport or SouthBend. They ONLY DO WHAT THEIR CLIENTS TELL THEM TO DO. Find Senators and Representatives in close political battles last election and get their previously defeated opponents on board. Thats rolling over and showing your belly while wagging your tail. I just bought a DDM4V11 in January at an unheard of, low price of $1369. Rock River Arms sent me a 6.5 Creedmoor rifle with a tan stock and 24-inch barrel for testing. Bill Ruger was key in the implementing of the 94 AWB, refusing to sell evil 20+ round magazines to anyone but .gov entities? Indiana has a good climate for manufacturers of firearms, and I wouldnt mind seeing a few more ffls open up shop near me in Northwest Indiana, either. Last Updated. Didnt Smith and Wesson do the same thing back in the Clinton era, and it nearly bankrupted them, let alone took them years to reclaim the trust of the gun community. Made in US, SSteel frame, ambi controls, no mag safety, field strips/assembles in less than a minute with no tools or pulling trigger. No sane company would move in to Illinois unless it was to curry political favor in Chicago as Boeing moving their HQ (no production) did. Rock Rivers AR builds are superb, and they come in at a price thats quite reasonable (starting at $1,585). Springfield cleaning to get the taint out of there. Ruger today is a strong supporter of everything 2A. Ruger was making superior quality products using totally American resources. Its enough of a turnaround that I forgive their earlier sins. Then beg for forgiveness. Mostly out of states with onerous laws and heavy taxation. If theres a silver lining here, this law should be shot down by the courts. By the time most of them have and Springfield Arms starts looking for a new home, they wont be welcome there. Sure enough, the bill passed theSenate by a single vote. An American didnt screw all other American gun-owners. Huh? you cant fix prices or youll get a shortage. They did what they thought would keep the Criminal Clinton Administration from making a total all out war on guns. Springfield can drop dead, Ill support gun manufacturers who support me. It only sells a 100% American Made product using American Labor. That is only if Springfield Arms survives this. With support like that, who needs Everytown? When you need mags that you can count on with each and every shot, make sure you turn to Rock River Arms! No lobbyist will take a position without their clients approval, because THE CLIENT PAYS THE LOBBYISTS SALARY. Bummer, I was considering a Springfield 1911 at some point. Dont forget about the Ruger, Smith and Wesson sellout.. Search Ruger anti gun. They must be put out of business for their treachery. Weve been busting our asses to support our friends and punish our enemies. All of these rifles are vastly superior to Ruger. Its not difficult. WebSo What Happened At Rock River Arms & Springfield Armory??? Now that I understand what occurred its pretty obvious as gunners we need to pass on Springfield and run to Henry. Is there a list somewhere? Rock Bolt Gun Rbg-1s Starting At $4,450. I wont name them, but the sales people at certain companies worked hard (and maybe even fudged some dates on paperwork) to make sure that I got my magazines before the deadline in the law hit. Are you reading-impaired? Sadly, some of the collar county Repubs arent so much. Could be paperweights. Gun owners have good memories, it will take a year but Springfield like Target will notice their mistake on their Revenue numbers and blame the weather, the president, insert excuse here. You cannot exempt large businesses from onerous regulations that you impose on small businesses. Rock River Arms is an American manufacturer of firearms that was founded in 1996. Never a single problem, thousands of rounds. Meanwhile, over at the Rock River booth at the NRA convention, owner Chuck Larson has professed innocence in the matter. Some times they have deals. We feel that IFMAs Pennsylvania checking in. The original company lives on today under the name Winche ster. If CTD notices panic buying, shuts down their site and reprices everything, thats their right. An xdm9 and a 1911 loaded. You shouldve made that decision because it is a piece of garbage, not because of this hysterical article. Many good options, why buy from jackasses so they can continue draw. 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