What does it actually mean to be bad anyways? Of course normally just have one experimenter who's giving you these instructions. Scattered One dead dad. [inaudible 01:00:01] is I- I went back one time before [inaudible 01:00:05] that I, uh, like I said, I got to get it out. I'm gonna-. His was the first generation when a young Jewish boy could truly imagine that he could just be a regular part of that society, he could do anything. Just push the button that corresponds to the right word. Mm-hmm (affirmative), Mm-hmm (affirmative). What makes a bad person so bad that he's different from the rest of us? And my father was recruited to the task force. Unusually so in those times. The killer seemed to have placed the bodies as if they were mannequins. Yeah, me too. And they ask for it to be reformulated to take out the warning smell. And then, Othello goes and kills his own wife, smothering her with a pillow. And "Well, why the rage?" A given episode might whirl you through science, legal history, and into the home of. So wait. And, like, it kind of, like, hurt his feelings. I'm not going to give you- I'm- I'm not going to help restore the sense that there is a moral order to the world and a moral norm. Okay. That was just for those of you haven't heard it yet, this is a kind of a rush through a- through sex reproduction. Because the thing that you put into the ground to grow more food is also the thing you can explode to make a bomb? When Lucy was only two days old she was adopted by a psychologist and his wife who wondered: if given the right environment, how human could Lucy . So, my father and the other interviewer in that room that morning, Detective John Natson, they start using a line of, uh, uh, a tact of, uh, uh, of interviewing him that was very-. Although once again we're getting a little ahead of ourselves. Come over now.". Yeah. So- so first of all, could you just like, uh, when did he live and what did he look like and that kind of stuff? Gary says, "I needed to kill." The reason why he's telling all this stuff is because he has cut a deal. He signs up immediately, sends a letter volunteering for duty. So, Sam what happened to this guy after World War I? David had always known this guy to be pretty mild mannered. Enhancing public understanding of science and technology in the modern world. But it wasn't until a few years later that he learned something that really put what happened that night into context. Iago. Stanley Milgram had four scripted prods that he wrote out for his experimenters for when the subjects didn't want to continue. ", "Even- even when their sorrows almost were forgot. They continued shocking their corpses. Hey, I'm Jad Abumrad. And he spent five years in a futile effort to distill gold from the ocean's waters. The Germans on one side, the French, the Canadians and the British on the other. And one of the first acts that the Nazis do is to-, That says, "There shall be no Jews in the civil service. Yes. Does everybody, at some point, have something dark in them that just tiptoes out, from time to time? Become A Member. Haber's gas troops, uh, un- unscrewed, they opened the valves on almost 6000 tanks containing a 150 tons of chlorine. Well, have you ever been blackmailed the way this woman was being blackmailed? Accuracy and availability may vary. "This was exactly what was in my mind. Just a little glimmer. In the best of your memory, which word was matched with nice? So, he starts experimenting. We realize this is hard work, but what you are doing is for the good of Germany. Then the executioner castrates you, cuts you open, and takes out your internal organs, and then, separates your head, which is put on a post. Especially because she found out he was leaving the next day to direct more gas attacks. "The experiment requires that you continue.". That guy yelling of course was an actor and the shocks weren't real, but the questions in the air at the time were very real. We'll be right back [inaudible 00:31:42], let's just finish this series. The Green River murders terrorized Seattle in the 1980s. Why did you do this?" Okay. The subjects range in occupation from corporation presidents, to Good Humor men, and plumbers. The reason why he's telling all this stuff is because he has cut a deal. If the experimenter is not a scientist, but is an ordinary man. Oft have I digged up dead men from their graves and set them upright at their dear friend's door. Suddenly I'm thinking this is actually a darker interpretation. But over the entire ocean, there's a lot of gold dissolved into the sea. Sep 21, 2018 . You wouldn't though, would you really? But if looked at from another perspective, there is a sense in which you could celebrate what they're doing. Why did you inflict on this suffering on them, on us? Milgram staged the whole thing like it was some experiment about memory and punishment, but of course it wasn't about that. She says, "What happened today?" You know, "I- I- I Harley, you know, regret the fact that I killed a young maiden or defamed the king" or whatever it is. When you call someone, "Evil." Probably have, but in case you haven't. The questionnaires they filled out are part of the Milgram archive at Yale. Stanley Milgram took electric shock very seriously. In any case-. A lot of them are really positive even though they've just been told that they were duped. The first victims of the Green River killer were found in the summer of 1982. Then you left some space at the bottom for them to elaborate if they said, "Yes. And that's all the difference in the world. Our fact checker's Michelle Harris because facts matter. Again, it's a pretty big thing to miss. I liked her. God, I feel like we haven't, you and I sat together and said our names in quite some time. Many of them after they were murdered. RadioLab is supported by Rocket Mortgage by Quicken Loans. This actually brings us to the first topic of the hour, so let me Just to set it up. Said- said, "Yes, I've thought about killing someone.". You know what's going to happen if she [inaudible 01:02:25]. Thousands of people have done it before you. I'm not saying a word. He would dance around things. We have kids in the- in the room. The- the last time she- she was in a hurry. But in a us sort of way. So, you see, it's just in that one experiment that 65% of people are willing to go all the way. He could have never imagined that. I mean it's a pretty heady thing for a Jewish kid from Breslau to be hobnobbing with the Emperor, and cabinet ministers, he's part of the club; and he really, really relished it. And then he seemed fine. Birds would just fall from the air. This was a moment when human cruelty was on trial, quite literally. To feed about 30 million people. He was in this, um, uh, uh, state of fury, he said, and, um, and instead of hitting his wife, he smashed his fist into the bathroom mirror. And then she said, "I actually did this. Like, saying like, "I don't want to kill a guy.". And not just because he was vain, which everyone agrees he was, but because he loves his country. Radiolab is produced by Jad Abumrad. ", He actually threw a dinner party in celebration-. Thanks to all our great storytellers. It's 0924 hours on June 17th, year 2003. That's right. In 2016, Abumrad took a four-month break from Radiolab, in large part to recharge from what he's described as burnout from the years of making the show in his distinctly intense and very. So you don't know? To find page after page of yeses. It comes to us from our reporter, Aaron Scott. In front of this really impressive looking machine. He goes straight to the German high command, and he pitches this idea. You can see this in the surveys that the men filled out after the experiments were over. Where sound illuminates ideas, and the boundaries blur between science, philosophy, and human experience. Especially because she found out he was leaving the next day to direct more gas attacks. And then, in experiment number four, when the teacher has to hold the learner's hand down-. There's something deeply, deeply wounding, stressing, upsetting a thought that he had anything to do with Zyklon B, but he did. But as the play goes on, you begin to think that maybe that's just another lie. They couldn't deploy it. Wow. So you see it's just in that one experiment that 65 percent of people are willing to go all the way. Although, I don't know if that's the right word for this next thing 'cause it's sort of more complicated. Like, you can't throw that air onto a plant (laughing). Go to audible.com/radiolab or text Radiolab to 500500 for a free 30-day trial and a few audiobook. So, he ends up admitting it. He won't answer me or nothing. Like, "Oh my God. "Well, why can't you deal with it in a normal way?" Addeddate 2012-10-10 05:15:40 Boxid OL100020610 Identifier wnycs-radiolab_the-bad-show Add Review 4 Views DOWNLOAD OPTIONS 1 file ITEM TILE 4 Files 4 Original Ear drums, God. There's a lot of black and white thinking happening right now. He brings her up as an example of a- of a woman that he actually had strong feelings for. "Research in any field is a must, particularly in this day and age." Now there's a footnote to this that is very strange. I mean, it's a pretty big thing to miss. Um, although there's some (laughs) [crosstalk 00:02:19]. And almost like blaming the victims. He claimed they were in the middle of a sex act, he would get distracted, something would happen, he just kind of went crazy, he had snapped; and almost blaming the victims. Enhancing public understanding of science and technology in the modern world. Jeff Jensen's book is The Green River Killer, A True Detective Story. I can't quite place him. This has allowed the world to have 7 billion people. Well I mean, I know it does, sir. This is Radiolab and today we're going to get bad. Radiolab.org. And that we're not going to be shocked with anything-. Although, clearly, on some level they know it isn't. This is how it describes what it does: 'Radiolab believes your ears are a portal to another world. We thought that maybe as- as we turn a corner ourselves, we should refresh. Stanley Milgram had four scripted prods that he wrote out for his experimenters. Wow. And maybe forces hydrogen in the tank. The- the leaves would just sort of shrivel and the grass was turning to the color of metal. Uh, she, uh, expressed disapproval about his, um, clothing choices. And that's what Shakespeare did in all of his plays. And he says, "That's what people wanted. All right. He figured maybe one percent of these men would keep flicking the switches, up to the highest voltage. And also a scientist. And to approach it with kind of crazy joy, I don't know. And you like her. The fact that he kept on doing it over and over and over again was like, "Come on.". And it's moving in about one meter per second. So basically, at 6 p.m. on April 22nd-. But harbor saw it as a wonderful success, and wished that the Germans had been better prepared to exploit it, because he felt they really could have made a terrific advance if they had had more confidence. They're trying to do the right thing. Podcast Transcripts of Radiolab Radiolab Society & Culture Science Latest Transcripts What Up Holmes? I mean-. Like, is that something that's universal? Transcripts and recorded audio may be available for many of the programs you hear on WNYC. In December of 2001, my father and his colleagues-. Here's what he did. Is that nitrogen is [tryvalent 00:31:48]. Check out the Casper or the Wave mattress with a support system that mirrors your body shape. Does he- is he saying what I think he's saying? But he is a large, very strong man with a black belt in karate. So he felt publicly humiliated. Maria Matasar-Padilla is our managing director. That's what's horrifying about it, but imagine they were administering pain to themselves. As we continue listening to the Bad Show episode on human nature, our neighbors and ourselves, check out the Blank Slate by Steven Pinker available on Audible. We will begin with this test-. And also, thank you to Alex Haslam, Professor of Psychology at the University of Exeter. Who are you?". Making him the most prolific serial killer in American history. [1] Radiolab was founded by Jad Abumrad and Robert Krulwich in 2002. In 1962 Stanley Milgram shocked the world with his study on obedience. Hey wait! Now there's a footnote to this that is very strange. Like, he didn't intend for that to happen. And he believed it. My dorsal hair stood up when I read the end of this. Shoots herself in the chest, and is found by her son. Terms and conditions apply. But it wasn't until a few years later that he learned something that really put what happened that night into context. Yes. And we end with the story of a man who chased one of the most prolific serial killers in US history, then got a chance to ask him the question that had haunted him for years: why? And what makes a bad person so bad that he's different from the rest of us? That allows an individual to act inhumanely-, It's like a downloadable from the internet; instant defense for doing wrong. I'm going to take a break. His calculation showed that it couldn't be done. Well the thing that haunts me about the why question is that I'm reminded of one of the oldest stories in the Bible, which is the story of Job. Suddenly I'm thinking this is actually a darker interpretation-. And I devoted one class session to the topic of homicide and why people kill. Time's up. If the experiment had to be successful, it had to be carried on.". Imagine they really were had to administer shocks to themselves or something. So there's a way in which there's a touch of spark of humanity. But in a famous incident, one of England's leading scientists refuses to shake his hand. No, but there's part of me says, "You know, here's a guy who just wanted to do everything better than had ever been done before." They brought in psychiatrists and forensic psychologists to try to get an answer. comment. You've touched me. But when he gets there, he has to contend with his wife, Clara Immerwahr. In a rage how? No. But did it, publicly, in front of her friends. "Definitely yes.". Then a few months later, he started calling me, trying to get back together, but I didn't want to. Speaking with Carol's mom, Carol's little daughter-, Killed her. Don't- don't the man's health mean anything? These are people who are incredibly noble, they are. But, you know, over the entire ocean there's a lot of gold dissolved into the sea. People like director Sam Mendez, musicians Jean Batiste, and Wynton Marsalis, Call Your Girlfriends [inaudible 00:27:12], and our very own Alec Baldwin. He would deny things, he would obscure, he would dance around things. He's a master planner. Cruelty, violence, badness. September 15, 2022 Radiolab for Kids and WNYC Studios present Terrestrials, a six-episode miniseries hosted by Lulu Miller (co-host of Radiolab . Bonobos. By this point, David moved on to a new university and he's teaching an introductory psychology class. She was one of the first women to earn a PhD in her country. TRANSCRIPTS We are working to provide transcripts for as much of our programming as we can over. Like shocking an innocent stranger over and over. You're going to keep giving what? "Research in any field is a must, particularly in this day and age. One of the reasons it grows, is because it's sucking up all the nitrogen in the soil. This- this is really important. Saying, "You know, the process that I used to make food? It was actually a crushing blow for- for him. So, as we begin this episode of the Bad Show, check out The Blank Slate by Steven Pinkner, one of the world's leading experts on language and the mind. Yeah. Even when their sorrows almost were forgot, and on their skins is on the bark of trees, have written my life with my knife carved in Roman letters. And then, he starts this period of roaming. And he ran them through something like what you and I just did. Want to talk about bad people in Shakespeare. They spent the next six months interrogating him, they brought in psychiatrists, and forensic psychologists to try to get an answer. She says, "What happened today?" He would change where the shocker and the shockee sat. And so, Gary starts going through this narrative of what he did to Carol. He claimed they were in the middle of a sex act, he would get distracted, something would happen. He said, "Look, this is what you're going to do is of course you don't want to do this. Up until that point, Gary refused to say, "That from the minute I picked these women up, I wanted to kill them." My point is sometimes when we ask the why in the face of profound evil, I kind of wonder if what we're doing is that we're daring God to show himself. This is what's driving the world towards 10, 12 by 2050. So Stanley Milgram actually begins these experiments-. [inaudible 00:59:10] I went back one time before and [inaudible 00:59:13] that I Like I said, I got to give it out, can't keep holding it in. "You know, you're not the first person that's ever done this.". And he goes home for a few days a hero. And so when I went to the party, the party was already in full swing when I got there. Or does everybody at some point have something dark in them? All right, so I'm going to talk to you over this intercom, okay? No reason. in the next room just because they're being told to. They arrest Gary Le- Leon Ridgeway. There's lots and lots of lessons here, but one is I think when you're enjoying to do something for the greater good, maybe ask yourself the question, "What is greater, and what is good?". And to bring a few other of our storytellers in. And once again, another nitrogen compound. Really, that story's been told a million and one times for the last 50 years, we've just got to get over it. And what happens is that you're- you're elbowing the nit- nitrogen apart from itself and then, forcing it to bond with a hydrogen in a new way. I think you got to answer it, "With him." Nothing to be ashamed of. Okay, so I heard this one from this guy named David-. That's historian, Fritz Stern, who also happens to be Fritz Haber's godson. Hundreds of them were falling to the ground. The thing is that I do have a new boyfriend, but my ex-boyfriend doesn't know that yet, and I'm terrified that he'll do what he says. No. He gets promoted to the rank of captain-. This is just a tsunami of evil that passes through the play. If I don't leave my house right now, I'm going to kill her." So he starts experimenting. Next, we meet a man who scrambles our notions of good and evil: chemist Fritz Haber, who won a Nobel Prize in 1918around the same time officials in the US were calling him a war criminal. WNYC is America's most listened-to public radio station and the producer of award-winning programs and podcasts like Radiolab, On the Media, and The Brian Lehrer Show. That's what we're heading towards. An experiment is being conducted in the elegant interaction laboratory at Yale University. And oddly enough, we came- got a really interesting take on the true nature of badness from this guy. Radiolab is supported by Casper. They're not doing something because they have to. And she takes a service revolver-. Fast forward 10 years. So, it's very-. "Do you think that more studies of this sort should be carried out?" Maybe it's all about doubt in the end. It was about how far would these people go? Yeah, well. It is a fair question to ask what are the conditions under which you or me or any of us could do-. He buried them, or left their bodies in these little clumps in the woods-. It's a little bit more direct. We, as- as onlookers to this study, we have this kind of god-like, uh, sort of vision of, like, well of course what they're doing is wrong. So, how do you feel about him now because I don't know I can't help but feel bad for the guy? Cruelty, violence, badness in this episode we begin with a chilling statistic: 91% of men, and 84% of women, have fantasized about killing someone. In Shakespeare, or life. Now, of course, you could find some nitrogen out in the world. And at the very end of the play when everyone finds out what Iago's done, Othello asks him, "Why? Well, we'll have to discontinue the experiment then. And it's a craft, but it's a craft with consequences, and to approach it with kind of crazy joy? Then, we reconsider what Stanley Milgram's famous experiment really revealed about human nature (it's both better and worse than we thought). We ask deep questions and use investigative journalism to get the answers. And a mysterious past. They will spare his son if he fesses up and- and tells them what they need to know. Who is going to do this powerful piece of science. Whether it was feeding, or killing, or-, And he does. Is an absolute order. Yep, women participants, he had an experimenter who wasn't a scientist, but was a member of the general public. Well that's to [inaudible 00:19:32], just cut it out. And I think what we want out of the why is meaning, meaning to life to reveal itself in a way that restores order and give us hope that all of this isn't just meaningless chaos. Pat, go ahead. Test the outer edges of what you think you know, Copyright 2019 New York Public Radio. Really? It's the experimenter. But as far as I know, there are none for Radiolab.I think I once read a statement from Jad and/or Robert that they view the show as an audio experience, and so believe it can't be captured in a transcript. And I heard about him from science writer, Sam Kean. He was trying to repeat this masterstroke. Leaving a son, a- a- alone with his dead mother. And, "Because women have stepped on me all my life." This is Radiolab and today talking about? There are hints of reasons. See now around this point I just don't have anything to do with this guy, I just want to take a shower, walk-. But you can't throw that air onto a plant. It comes to us from our reporter, Aaron Scott. "I need to kill because of that." Hi, my name's Josh and I'm calling from Harlem, New York. And they think it's right. And he was someone who had very big ambitions. Be right back. Sap in the next room just because they were being told to? This is sort of chilling comparison, which is a speed that Himmler gave to the SS, some SS leaders, when they were, uh, about to commit a range of atrocities. I mean-, So again, the baseline study is the one where 65 percent of the volunteers-, But in experiment number three, if they put the shock-ee in the same room-, With the shocker so the shocker could actually see the person that he's shocking-. He says that he's gonna- He's always been hiring people based on how smart they are and not who their grandparents were. And they go, "Why?" Okay, one of those very tiny old fashioned pair of glasses that would pinch on your nose. So the subjects seem willing to shock another human being, but as soon as you say, "It's an order.". I just needed to kill her." But it's suspected that it could be upwards of 75. Now, that right there, slap some quotations around that. In those days if you're a convicted male felon, you are, you know, strung up by- You're not allowed to hang till you die. We asked, "Who do you think about killing?" Thanks also to reporter Aaron Scott for that story. There's something deeply, deeply wounding, stressing, upsetting at the thought that he had anything to do with zyklon B; but he did. A lot of them are like, "This is not how you fight a war.". So, you don't know. When you call someone then you're kind of done with them. So he sends a letter to the Ministry of Education resigning, and he leaves Germany. Well, I'd have to discontinue the experimenter then. That's what you do. So, around the turn of the century for German scientists like Haber, this was the challenge. And as he was in the kitchen, looking stupid, peeling the carrots to make salad, I came up to him laughingly, gently, so that he wouldn't suspect anything. It's absolutely essential that you continue. Well, Sam, what happened to this guy after World War I? You- I mean, I'm not suggesting one should, but I'm just saying there is a sense in which these people are prepared to do something that's very painful to them and to someone else because they want to promote science. You know, I'm really proud of Job. In other words, nitrogen has really strong attachments to itself. If the experiment- if the experiment had to be successful, it had to be carried on.". Can you hear me? Well what's the noble cause in this case? Why did you take these women off the streets and want to destroy them? And especially humiliated over the fact that they had to pay enormous war reparations to other countries. I got to tell you, I'm not totally comfortable that you're providing all of the information [inaudible 00:57:52]-. Dan doesn't think so. And then, realized that he had to leave the house or he was going to do damage to her. And actually this wasn't just a German thing, a lot of people were beginning to worry that with about a billion and a half people on the planet, at that point, that maybe we were maxing out, that the earth couldn't support this many people. So Jeff wrote this book because his father, Tom Jensen, was one of the lead detectives tracking Gary Ridgeway. Walk- walk away. Would change where the shocker and the shock-ee sat. Is that how you say that thing-. And you know what? And when you stick a seed, like a wheat seed in the ground. I needed to kill her because that-. Haber finds himself in a little town in Belgium called Yp-. And- and Iago? The Germans were on one side, the French, the Canadians, and the British on the other. I actually did the first thing, but he saw my intentions and ran away." And that's what Shakespeare did in all his plays. This is Radiolab. Yeah. Under extreme, extreme pressure. But he is a, uh, a large, very strong man. I mean, that was makebelieve, but if you could somehow get a real Iago in the room and subject that person to questioning, and really get him to sort of fess up as to why they did it, would that make a difference? But we will do it on our own if we think it's good.". Uh, he was doing his- his great science work right around the turn of, uh, the 20th century. That's one of the things that we need to know. ", Yeah, we just need a whole lot more of one simple-. And in the other room, there was a guy, who he called the learner, who was supposed to have memorized some words. He had women participants. Wore a little, um, uh, pince-nez? Under some circumstances we don't do the bad thing we're told to do because" here's another flip "We don't have to be told. Radiolab is on a curiosity bender. Anytime the experimenter said, "You must continue." Reviews . When we asked how close she came to killing him, she estimated 60 percent. A liquid that has captured the nitrogen right out of the air. The killer seems to have placed the bodies as if they were mannequins. The authoritative record of New York Public Radio's programming is the audio record. All right. This is a 20 year old female. That I remember picking her up and-. And this is was the difference between Kaiser Wilhelm and, of course, Hitler's Germany. Gary had denied this to his own lawyers. That afternoon, he gets in his car, goes home, he finds my mom on the deck, sits down next to her. Visit casper.com/radiolab and use code radiolab and check out to get $50 towards select mattresses. For when the subjects didn't want to continue? So, I heard this one from this guy named David-. Push button, get mortgage. And one evening, they were throwing a party and invited me over. "Willing to help and a worthwhile experiment.". Go to audible.com/radiolab or text Radiolab to 500500 for a free 30-day trial and a few audiobook. He is a solder, he works for a general, the general's name is Othello. I- I- I would say in a powerful mood. Because, ultimately, the play offers up a reason for his nastiness. Just push the button that corresponds to the right word. Yeah. Like, you walked into the room, what- what do you find? So, basically at 6:00 pm at April 22nd. Radiolab for Kids Presents: Terrestrials A show where we uncover the strangeness right here on Earth Romeo y Julieta A World Premiere Bilingual Audio Play. And I basically spent the next half hour walking around with him trying to cool him off. What makes boys boys and girls girls. I mean, it's the fact that of course that they're administering main to a strange. But the guy is cut to shreds, he's allowed to confess. He works for a general. It is a, the- the critical- the critical force prod. And he is celebrated for it. So every day, they would bring them into this conference room-, This is a continuation of an interview with Gary Leon Ridgeway-. So, go to audible.com/radiolab or text Radiolab to 500500 for a free 30 day trial and a few audiobook. You know what? The story of Job is that one day God and Satan are having a conversation, and they're saying, "Have you checked out Job? He recruited a bunch of subjects. We're going to meet her later. Because if you ask university undergraduates, "What does the Milgram studies show?" Now, why don't you just- what do you remember since we last talked in this interview? God. Literally disappeared for six months and didn't tell anyone where she was because she was terrified that he was going to kill her. The fact that he kept on doing it over, and over, and over again was like, "Come on.". And when hydrogen and nitrogen bond together, the thing you get-. That one simple, "Why?" A given episode might whirl you through science, legal history, and into the home of. She just burst my eardrums (laughs). And then, he seemed fine when I said goodbye to him. 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